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So I am including links to the quickest ways to achieve each: 1) Finding Fish System 2) Insider Club’s Group Discounts Related categories: I guess because im so old fashioned in my 61 soon to be 62 years of living in only use the app on occasion but of coarse after fishing areas that I have fished in the last 22 years soon to be 23 years of the inshore saltwater scene before that it was all freshwater I have found that I pretty much know where all the holes points and structure is and while I do agree that the app will tell you a broad range of where fish should be it doesn’t do very good in fishing like under docks where sonar like you said with a good sidefinder will show and while I know you really are not a trolling kind of guy I troll alot in winter for trout and sometimes a few reds thats when my fishfinder really shines because I use the speed indicator that keeps me in the speed I know is the best for trolling I have found anywhere from about 1.5 to sometimes 2.5 is the right speeds anything under 1.5 and over 2.5 seems to be either to slow or fast but you hit it right on the nose saying fishfinders don’t really do well in shallow water under about 8 ft I usually like to stay in anything from about 5 to 12ft for trolling and while im not really concerned about seeing fish in around the 5 to 8ft of depth its being able to maintain my correct trolling speed that I look at thanks for the valuable intell and all you do your a great angler thats for sure thanks😉👍 Yeah if you know an area you really don’t need much help